Emma Emma says:I can hear you 16:02 AC Ana Claudia Sima Ana Claudia Sima says:I am speaking but apparently you can't hear me Ana Claudia Sima says:yeah 16:02 E Emma Emma says:I heard Ana and I can hear PM Emma says:(but I had sound issues first tme) Emma says:can you share the link to the latest version? 16:06 me says: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1quzvx2BbMlbUTwiqp9ksJinFR7-PQ9yKDj_9edaoguQ/edit

me says: https://mypads2.framapad.org/mypads/?/mypads/group/osnpr-2739qh9rj/pad/view/synopsis-441tvn9p1

16:10 E Emma Emma says:I completely agree Emma says:we need the CC-BY, indeed Emma says:well if we have to go back to 1998 that says something Emma says:it MUST be open Emma says:👍 16:21 AC Ana Claudia Sima Ana Claudia Sima says:we hear you, speak and it will arrive to us 16:23 Tobias Kuhn Tobias Kuhn says:I'll rejoin 16:23 AC Ana Claudia Sima Ana Claudia Sima says:you are speaking like from a distant star, the sound eventually reaches us 16:23 E Emma Emma says:ok great! 16:26 DM Daniel Mietchen Daniel Mietchen says:I found a CC BY 3.0 article in there: https://doi.org/10.1039/d2np00008c . Daniel Mietchen says:Now looking for a way to find papers by license... 16:28 E Emma Emma says:There is "preach to the converted" vs "trying to convert" ... as long as our article is open, it's meaningful right? 16:30 DM Daniel Mietchen Daniel Mietchen says:But RDF does not work well for opinion pieces 16:31 E Emma Emma says:RDF does not work well for many things Emma says:and it is a lot less accessible to mere mortals than a PDF 16:31 SΦ score(φ) score(φ) says:Tobias knows how to encode difficult scientifc claims 😉 16:31 E Emma Emma says:it sounds like we need some pros and cons for different approaches 16:33 DM Daniel Mietchen Daniel Mietchen says:I thought it was already clarified that our article would be open, even in this journal. 16:34 E Emma Emma says:I thought so too 16:34 me says:It will. me says:Obviously me says:The thing is that the JOURNAL is not Open me says:I dont care that much ... 16:34 DM Daniel Mietchen Daniel Mietchen says:I think publishing an open piece in a close journal is a valid thing to do, and a small step towards more openness. 16:35 E Emma Emma says:I completely agree 16:35 me says:+1 16:35 SΦ score(φ) score(φ) says:Me too 16:35 DM Daniel Mietchen Daniel Mietchen says:Here is another CC BY 3.0 article from there: https://doi.org/10.1039/d1np00023c

Daniel Mietchen says:Yes, both papers share their strructures and spectra as jpg 16:38 E Emma Emma says:great, we could add to e.g. PubChem if it's open 16:38 SΦ score(φ) score(φ) says:Both are not "classical" NPR articles reporting occurrences but rather reviews of methodologies score(φ) says:Not sure there is much to mine there in terms of structures/taxa pairs 16:40 E Emma Emma says:hmm that's a pity 16:40 DM Daniel Mietchen Daniel Mietchen says:There was a paper "Adventures in Semantic Publishing: Exemplar Semantic Enhancements of a Research Article", of which we could do a 15-year anniversary celebration by annotating such a NPR paper and turning it into a knowledge graph. Link: https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pcbi.1000361

16:40 E Emma Emma says:yeah but the problem is what is the "win" for the individual doing the work 16:43 DM Daniel Mietchen Daniel Mietchen says:But be clear that by the article being "open", we mean CC BY or CC0. Daniel Mietchen says:Here is another CC BY one: https://doi.org/10.1039/d1np00018g

16:52 D Donat Donat says: https://tb.plazi.org/GgServer/dioStats/stats?outputFields=doc.articleUuid+bib.source+treat.id&groupingFields=doc.articleUuid+bib.source&FP-bib.source=Phytochemistry&FP-treat.id=1-&format=HTML

16:52 SΦ score(φ) score(φ) says:Table1 looks good 😃 score(φ) says:Yeah... I like this one score(φ) says:All tables are cool score(φ) says:And Egon could do something about the reactions in the images

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